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		<title>Comment on Where Does Good Writing Come From? by Larry Garland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 03:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, yours is the age-old question asked in writing classes worldwide: Can good/great writing be taught? Novelist Tom Robbins is quoted in tomorrow&#039;s edition (April 1, 2012) of the New York Times saying, &quot;There are no prodigies in literature. Literature requires experience, in a way that mathematics and music do not.&quot; You complain of my criticism, but it is a critique—offered honestly and openly—with the goal of learning about writing in order to write better. 

Your writing &quot;voice&quot; is beautiful, Peter. Achieving that kind of distinctive voice is something I aspire to in my writing. (I don&#039;t aspire to &lt;em&gt;be&lt;/em&gt; a writer; I &lt;em&gt;am&lt;/em&gt; a writer.) Your distinctive voice comes out of your unique history, and it is pure and lovely; but that alone does not make a great writer. A good editor can adjust spelling and punctuation without detracting from the author&#039;s voice, so that&#039;s not a significant problem, but there is a discipline required, also. And a meaningful, essential structure arises from application of that learned discipline. That is what I seek and what I was talking about in my essay. There is no shame in questioning great writing, for the sin resides in &lt;em&gt;not questioning&lt;/em&gt; what it is that we love and why we love it—why it works. I parse it to learn what makes it great. Therefore, my questioning doesn&#039;t belittle the work, it praises it.

Perhaps great writers are both born and made, in concert. Certainly, great writing cannot manifest without a great deal of reading first. It is in our assimilation of what we read that we begin to write better, and from that wellspring my essay flowed—and purely so.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, yours is the age-old question asked in writing classes worldwide: Can good/great writing be taught? Novelist Tom Robbins is quoted in tomorrow&#8217;s edition (April 1, 2012) of the New York Times saying, &#8220;There are no prodigies in literature. Literature requires experience, in a way that mathematics and music do not.&#8221; You complain of my criticism, but it is a critique—offered honestly and openly—with the goal of learning about writing in order to write better. </p>
<p>Your writing &#8220;voice&#8221; is beautiful, Peter. Achieving that kind of distinctive voice is something I aspire to in my writing. (I don&#8217;t aspire to <em>be</em> a writer; I <em>am</em> a writer.) Your distinctive voice comes out of your unique history, and it is pure and lovely; but that alone does not make a great writer. A good editor can adjust spelling and punctuation without detracting from the author&#8217;s voice, so that&#8217;s not a significant problem, but there is a discipline required, also. And a meaningful, essential structure arises from application of that learned discipline. That is what I seek and what I was talking about in my essay. There is no shame in questioning great writing, for the sin resides in <em>not questioning</em> what it is that we love and why we love it—why it works. I parse it to learn what makes it great. Therefore, my questioning doesn&#8217;t belittle the work, it praises it.</p>
<p>Perhaps great writers are both born and made, in concert. Certainly, great writing cannot manifest without a great deal of reading first. It is in our assimilation of what we read that we begin to write better, and from that wellspring my essay flowed—and purely so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where Does Good Writing Come From? by peter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 03:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A good writer will not attempt to corral the story,  for she knows its wild spirit cannot survive if confined by the borders of her experience. It has its own life to live,  and so,  a good writer lets it go. This frees writers from worry that their life experiences might be less interesting than those of others. We are drawn to the mystery of what we don’t know. As readers,  we are likely to have little interest in hearing the writer tell what he knows about his life—and a great deal of curiosity about the unknowns the writer explores as we go along for the ride. The human condition is a callout to curiosity,  and intersecting somewhere down that curving path runs the road to great writing.

Good writers don’t recite lessons they’ve learned. They hunt for answers. They chase their illusive unknowns,  and the appeal is in the thrill of the chase. Make the reader a member of the hunting party. The sweat of active participation—how that rivulet feels running down your back,  the musty smell of the horse’s hair matted underneath you,  the foam from your steed’s mouth flying in the wind—all these details come from the writer’s experience and make the story real through their affect on your characters. Knowledge is the backdrop,  the foundation,  the supporting structure,  and even the sensibility for what comes next. It is the probing-stick that we use to explore the unknown. But too often it also becomes the crutch we depend on. We think the details are the story, so we stop there, and that kills the story.&quot;

I don&#039;t think I have ever known an aspiring writer to begin with a criticism of good writers. I think it&#039;s virtually impossible to qualify or quantify under any circumstances or discription, regardless of how lengthy, and verbiage apportioned, and gifted said critic might be, to justify such an inflated, and without qualification, overblown analysis of a &quot;good writer&quot;.

A good writer Mr. Garland, doesn&#039;t have to say they are. Thier words speak for themselves. A writer, good or bad, writes with a passion and an internal voice, akin to the voice of God. It&#039;s devine, singular, a separate and shared space. It&#039;s not what they know, but it&#039;s the knowing and the sounds they hear, the voices that talk,the spaces between time, and reality. It&#039;s love, making it, foreplay, climax, and afterglow. It&#039;s the taste of sweat, semen, orchids at a funeral, and lillies at a wedding, the babtismal child inviolate, the cacaphony of a NY city street, or the silence of a sequesterd rural cemetary. It&#039;s the voice, Mr. Garland. Its the magic when you read a phrase, a sentence so good, your mouth waters, and begs to be spoken aloud, and remembered and caressed in the mind and the heart of the reader. It&#039;s the chapter that takes you somewhere, you have never been, but by closing your eyes, you can touch it, taste it, feel it&#039;s pulse, and surrender yourself completely to that moment. Analyzing good writing is like digging a grave, once you have done it, better just pile the dirt back in, because the real story will be on the headstone, and that&#039;s just the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A good writer will not attempt to corral the story,  for she knows its wild spirit cannot survive if confined by the borders of her experience. It has its own life to live,  and so,  a good writer lets it go. This frees writers from worry that their life experiences might be less interesting than those of others. We are drawn to the mystery of what we don’t know. As readers,  we are likely to have little interest in hearing the writer tell what he knows about his life—and a great deal of curiosity about the unknowns the writer explores as we go along for the ride. The human condition is a callout to curiosity,  and intersecting somewhere down that curving path runs the road to great writing.</p>
<p>Good writers don’t recite lessons they’ve learned. They hunt for answers. They chase their illusive unknowns,  and the appeal is in the thrill of the chase. Make the reader a member of the hunting party. The sweat of active participation—how that rivulet feels running down your back,  the musty smell of the horse’s hair matted underneath you,  the foam from your steed’s mouth flying in the wind—all these details come from the writer’s experience and make the story real through their affect on your characters. Knowledge is the backdrop,  the foundation,  the supporting structure,  and even the sensibility for what comes next. It is the probing-stick that we use to explore the unknown. But too often it also becomes the crutch we depend on. We think the details are the story, so we stop there, and that kills the story.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I have ever known an aspiring writer to begin with a criticism of good writers. I think it&#8217;s virtually impossible to qualify or quantify under any circumstances or discription, regardless of how lengthy, and verbiage apportioned, and gifted said critic might be, to justify such an inflated, and without qualification, overblown analysis of a &#8220;good writer&#8221;.</p>
<p>A good writer Mr. Garland, doesn&#8217;t have to say they are. Thier words speak for themselves. A writer, good or bad, writes with a passion and an internal voice, akin to the voice of God. It&#8217;s devine, singular, a separate and shared space. It&#8217;s not what they know, but it&#8217;s the knowing and the sounds they hear, the voices that talk,the spaces between time, and reality. It&#8217;s love, making it, foreplay, climax, and afterglow. It&#8217;s the taste of sweat, semen, orchids at a funeral, and lillies at a wedding, the babtismal child inviolate, the cacaphony of a NY city street, or the silence of a sequesterd rural cemetary. It&#8217;s the voice, Mr. Garland. Its the magic when you read a phrase, a sentence so good, your mouth waters, and begs to be spoken aloud, and remembered and caressed in the mind and the heart of the reader. It&#8217;s the chapter that takes you somewhere, you have never been, but by closing your eyes, you can touch it, taste it, feel it&#8217;s pulse, and surrender yourself completely to that moment. Analyzing good writing is like digging a grave, once you have done it, better just pile the dirt back in, because the real story will be on the headstone, and that&#8217;s just the beginning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Wandering Minstrel I’m Not by Lorilee Truglio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorilee Truglio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 13:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can certainly see your skills in the work you write. The world hopes for more passionate writers like you who aren&#039;t afraid to say how they believe. Always go after your heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can certainly see your skills in the work you write. The world hopes for more passionate writers like you who aren&#8217;t afraid to say how they believe. Always go after your heart.</p>
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		<dc:creator>An Ocean of Fun at Oceana &#124; shoot&#38;eat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 05:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you are not familiar with a beefsteak dinner, then you will definitely want to read about it on Garlandia, Larry Garland’s blog. After you read about the beefsteak, I’m sure you will want to jump right [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on In the Custody of the CIA by drewo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece Larry, thanks for sharing. I grew up in nearby Poughkeepsie and my folks are still there, so we occasionally have lunch at the CIA. As you say, it&#039;s just a pleasure to visit the grounds (which have greatly improved since I was a kid). We most recently ate at the casual seat-yourself lunch spot there, but the name escapes me. The Dutchess County area has greatly benefited from all the culinary talent regularly graduating from the CIA.

Drew Olewnick
Chief Marketing Officer
Jill Tucker Nursing Services
http://jilltuckernursing.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece Larry, thanks for sharing. I grew up in nearby Poughkeepsie and my folks are still there, so we occasionally have lunch at the CIA. As you say, it&#8217;s just a pleasure to visit the grounds (which have greatly improved since I was a kid). We most recently ate at the casual seat-yourself lunch spot there, but the name escapes me. The Dutchess County area has greatly benefited from all the culinary talent regularly graduating from the CIA.</p>
<p>Drew Olewnick<br />
Chief Marketing Officer<br />
Jill Tucker Nursing Services<br />
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		<title>Comment on Where Does Good Writing Come From? by Larry Garland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Georgia. I&#039;m pleased that it made you think and that you enjoyed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Georgia. I&#8217;m pleased that it made you think and that you enjoyed it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where Does Good Writing Come From? by Georgie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post makes me want to be a better writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post makes me want to be a better writer.</p>
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		<link>http://larrygarlandnyc.com/2011/07/09/kings-jobs-jeers-and-jubilation-in-brooklyn/comment-page-1/#comment-5996</link>
		<dc:creator>las artes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 06:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Brooklyn] ... is home to, of course, Prospect Park, designed by Olmsted and Vaux, who also designed Manhattan&#039;s Central Park but preferred their Brooklyn creation. Adjacent to the park is the Brooklyn Botanic Garden, a 52-acre garden that is home to more than 10,000 taxa of plants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Brooklyn] &#8230; is home to, of course, Prospect Park, designed by Olmsted and Vaux, who also designed Manhattan&#8217;s Central Park but preferred their Brooklyn creation. Adjacent to the park is the Brooklyn Botanic Garden, a 52-acre garden that is home to more than 10,000 taxa of plants.</p>
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		<dc:creator>edukacja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its like you read my mind! You seem to know so much about this, like you wrote the book in it or something. I think that you can do with some pics to drive the message home a little bit, but instead of that, this is great blog. A fantastic read. I&#039;ll certainly be back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its like you read my mind! You seem to know so much about this, like you wrote the book in it or something. I think that you can do with some pics to drive the message home a little bit, but instead of that, this is great blog. A fantastic read. I&#8217;ll certainly be back.</p>
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		<dc:creator>giacca belstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 07:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good web site. I absolutely adore browsing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good web site. I absolutely adore browsing it.</p>
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